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BIOGRAPHICAL SKETCH OF CLARENCE
OVERLAND WALL Foreward: Clarence Wall's Brief Biographical Sketch:
Early
Years -Age 1 to 12
When Clarence was 4 or 5 years old, the house caught on fire.
Clarence was watching Lowell inside the house. Lowell was younger. Clarence tried
to warn his family members, who were working outside, but they could not
understand him at first and told him to
get back in the house. Clarence insisted the home was on fire.
Then it was too late and the home then burned to the ground. The
only thing they saved was Fanny's, Clarence's mother, sewing
machine. Clarence worked on the family farm and helped tend Lowell as a young child. He went to grade school in Ioka, Utah and later attended school in Roosevelt, Utah. In those days, his brothers and parents had to work very hard to survive. Few people had money to buy food and clothes necessary to provide for their family in comfort. Their home did not have running water. They packed water in from the ditch. They burned wood in an old stove to heat the home and cook food. The bedrooms had no heat and in the winter were very cold. Water would freeze in the bedrooms and night. Every person in the family had to work to help put food on the table. Times were tough. His father owned a farm and worked hard on the farm and in the mine to support his family of six children. Clarence had to go to work as a young age to help out. He learned not to waste anything. He remembers hoeing sugar beets for five cents a row, and the rows were 1/4 mile long. He had to work hard to make $1 per day. He also had to pick cockle burs out of sheep wool. He could earn 10 cents a sheep for his work. If a person worked hard he could make a dollar a day.
Clarence's Grandpa Robert Krebs, owned a prosperous farm nearby.
Grandpa Krebs was a very industrious farmer and he lived near Wilford and
Fanny Wall's farm. Grandpa Krebs was a talented musician, a good
carpenter, a good farmer and he later built a saw mill in Indian Canyon.
Years later Grandpa Krebs move to Price, Utah and took care of the old
Price LDS Tabernacle. Clarence ( and later Vida) formed a bond with
Robert Kreb's children and their kids and this friendly association has
continued until this very day. Clarence, Lloyd and Orval went to Montana in about 1930 to find work on a farm. Clarence was then only 13 or 14 years old. The pay was one dollar per day for 10 to 12 hours work. Clarence helped the cooks and helped put up hay. They were grateful to get a job as there was no work in the Uintah basin, where they were raised. It is tough when you leave your mother and dad at such an early age, but Clarence was a tough kid and was prepared to make his mark in life using his own two hands. He was not looking for someone else to give him welfare. Clarence said that although you probably would not know it by looking at him now, when he was young he was a very good athlete. If he could have stayed in school, he would have played basketball and baseball and competed on the track team and boxing team in high school. Clarence fibbed on his age, at age 16, and joined the CCC (Civilian Conservation Corp). This was a program set up by the Roosevelt Administration of the US government to put some young people to work. Clarence, while in the CCC's first went to Vernal and then to Maricopa, California & Escalante, Utah. He remained in the CCC's for 2 years, working with a pick and shovel on restoring the land, building roads, etc.. The pay was about thirty seven dollars per month. In 1934 at the age of 18, Clarence moved to Spring Canyon, UT and got a job in the coal mines. He performed many jobs including shoveling coal, which was very hard work. But Clarence was a strong young boy and had a good work ethic. He was not looking for a handout. He had to work hard on the family farm's and therefore, he knew how to work. It was this work ethic and a desire to improve himself that led Clarence to become Mine Foreman and Superintendent in his later mining years.
When Clarence was about 18, his Dad, Wilford, broke his back while working on road
construction and they eventually lost the 80 acre family farm that Wilford
and Fanny Wall had homesteaded. The farm was sold for about $1,000.
Clarence was then on his own and never did rely on any help from his
parents after he became 16 years old.
In 1934, he became interested in the coal
mines. Then the mines were paying about $5 per day. Clarence
was excited because he had no idea
he could make that much money in one day's time. He had been earning one
dollar a day doing farm labor. He usually worked in the mine in the winter and
was often laid off in the spring. This was a pattern that repeated itself
many times and it
allowed Clarence to go sheep shearing in the spring and summer for a
number of years. In the spring of 1936, Vida stayed in Spring Canyon to tend Slug Krebs kids, Bud and Bill, while Clarence went to California to tromp sheep wool in those big long bags. Clarence worked for Slug Krebs, his Uncle. Tromping wool was hard work, but for Clarence that was not a deterrent. (Note: the author of this bio sketch also tromped wool in those 9 feet long sacks. It was hot, dusty, and hard work and I can readily appreciate what hard work Clarence did to support his wife and himself). Clarence worked in the mines during the winter months of the mid-1930's. And typically in April, the coal mines started to lay off miners as the demand for coal declined. Clarence & Vida went to Idaho in the summer of 1936 when Clarence was about 20 years old. Clarence worked milking cows for the Thousand Spring Ranch near Twin Falls, Idaho. Orval Wall was a foreman for them. Clarence was a hard worker and was well liked by everyone. Clarence milked the famous cow named "Judy." Apparently Judy was the cow on the Morning Milk can and this cow was heavily advertised in the newspapers of the day. Clarence often expressed appreciation for all those who helped him in his early married years when times were tough. And Clarence was able to help many others throughout his life. I guess it was a form of payback for the help he received in his early years. Clarence and Vida returned to Spring Canyon in September of 1936, a year or so after they were married. Clarence continued to work in the coal mines. In 1936 they got their first house in Spring Canyon. They rented this coal company owned home for only a few dollars per month. Work in the mines was usually good in the winter but poor in the summer months. So in the summer months Clarence worked on ranches in Idaho and later he went on the shearing road to supplement his mining income. Between 1936 and 1939 their first three kids, Lois, Jim and Lynn were born in Spring Canyon. By today's standards, those were tough days. The houses were very small, had no heat in the bedrooms and you took a bath only once per week or so. Bath water was scarce so all of the kids frequently bathed in the same water. At first the houses had no inside toilets and the women had no automatic washing machines. Instead they had ringer washers and often the kids go their arms caught in the ringers and this was dangerous. I believe Jim Wall go his arm caught in a ringer. And of course in those days there were no telephones in the homes. If you wanted to make a phone call, you had to go to the main store area in Spring Canyon. When phones were added years later they were party lines so you could listen into your neighbors calls. Not a bad thing, if you need to find out what as going on. Every morning in those mining houses you had to build a fire in the
kitchen stove to heat water and to cook meals on the top and bake bread in
the oven. Vida would use wood and coal to make a fire. Then
she cooked Clarence breakfast and fixed his lunch. Then an hour or
two later the kids got up and Vida fixed them breakfast again. The
kids huddled around the coal stoves to get warm in the winter. Most
every one wore long underwear as that was the only way to keep warm.
And on the beds you usually had 3 or 4 heavy blankets and quilts as ice
would freeze in the bedrooms in the winter months. Clarence, and all of the other miners, typically came out of the mine black with coal dust from head to toe. The coal dust got up his nostrils and made his mucous black. It got in his lungs and made it more difficult to breathe in later years. Many miners developed black lung because of the dust. At the end of the day, most of the men would shower in the bath houses, and hoist their old clothes up a rope to the top of the ceiling. And the next work day they would change back into the dirty clothes. And every man had to get a fresh light every day so he could see underground. It was cool in the mine and the temperature did not change much even in the winter months. And once inside the mine, every miner had to be very careful so he would not be killed with a falling rock or with an explosion caused by flammable gases such as methane, which could fill up the mine and be ignited by a spark. If you did not keep enough air flowing through the mine to sweep out the methane gas, which seeped out of the coal vein, you could become a victim of an explosion or fire. It was Clarence's job as a foreman to test the air to make sure no gas was present. To prevent coal dust explosions, the mining crews were required to put a non explosive white powder, called "rock dust" on the walls of the mined coal veins. Clarence was trained in safety matters and his skills in this area saved a lot of lives that otherwise could have been lost Clarence served on several mine rescue teams that recovered the bodies of men killed in mine fires and explosions. Clarence saved the lives of some with his first aid skills. Clarence put out some fires himself, inside the mine, fires that if left unfettered could have burned up the mine and killed a lot of peoples. The men could not smoke in the mines so many chewed tobacco, until they realized this was not a healthy thing to do. And today many still chew tobacco. Many coal miners sacrificed their health to provide a good income for their families. The following paragraph was provided by Wilma, and she took it from an article from a book about coal miners. The article, published in 2001, was about Carbon and Emery County history. "Clarence worked in the winter months in coal mines and was usually laid off in the spring. To supplement his income, he sheared sheep in the spring and summer. This became a way of life for him and his family. He took great pride in his work. For ten years, he worked the coal mines in the winter and sheared sheep from April to July. He injured his back in the coal mines, which made it harder for him to shear sheep. He decided to make a full career of coal mining and started working in Hiawatha mine on October 1, 1946. He worked as a section foreman for fifteen years. They promoted him to general mine foreman, a position he held until his retirement. He said he had a few close calls with accidents in the mine but was never hurt too badly. He has great respect for those whom he worked. He has been in three separate coal mine disaster rescues. He was at the Lark mine fire for thirty-two days. They fought the fire and recovered five victims. He also helped recover the bodies of two coal miners at Muddy Creek. After a few years, he helped recover the bodies of eight coal miners killed in a mine west of Helper, Utah. These were unpleasant, upsetting and difficult jobs. Someone had to be trained to do them and Clarence was grateful for the training and the ability to help when he was needed. Clarence says he and his wife have had a good life. He has enjoyed being a coal miner and sheep shearer. He says he has not had a great deal of money but has never wanted for much. He says he has always had a good car, several boats, a camper, good hunting equipment and a good vacation each year". (Note: this is the end of the article) Clarence's mother, Fanny; died in 1938. Clarence and Vida returned to Midway for the funeral and burial. Clarence said he cannot ever recall when his mother was not sick. She had heart trouble and died at a young age. There are several pictures of Clarence's parents in the Family Photo section of this web site. On Dec. 7, 1941, the day Japan attacked Pearl Harbor, Clarence & Vida were visiting her parent's in Cleveland, and Clarence was listening to a near by radio. The radio described the sneak attack that destroyed the USA Navy Fleet in the Pacific, killed over 2000 American serviceman and started World War II. This event would change Clarence and Vida's life as it did almost everyone's life in the whole world. World War II brought a rapid end to the great depression that existed from 1929 until 1941. During this depression era period, over 30 percent of the men were unemployed and food was scarce. Then many begin to wonder if the USA economic system was going to collapse putting an end to our capitalistic society. When the War started, suddenly every one could get a job. Many man and women did get jobs almost immediately and many joined the Army, Navy, Marines or Coast Guard. The women of America went to work as well in many factories making planes, ships, tanks, ammunition, clothes & other materials for the war effort. Everyone was encouraged to plant a Victory Garden to raise their own vegetables. They were encouraged, to save their scrap metal for the war effort and buy USA war bonds. The whole country was united in one common cause and that was to defeat Nazi Germany and Imperial Japan. Until the war was over in 1945, the coal mines began producing as much coal as they could produce, all year around. In 1942, almost everyone had some money, but it was difficult to buy many things because the government rationed almost everything to save resources for the war effort. Sugar, gasoline, tires, shoes, meat and many other things were rationed by the government. Vida and the other women of the day made many of their kids clothes by sewing them by hand or with a sewing machine. Many of the men planted gardens to help provide food for their family. Wilford Wall and his sons, Orval, Lloyd, Clarence, Lowell, & Evan
had their picture taken in about 1943 before Evan went into the Army to
fight in World War II in Italy. All of the Wall brothers were
married and had children and were coal miners. This gave them a military
deferment as coal was needed for the war effort. A 1943 photo is one of the few photos
of all the Wall brothers with their Dad. It is shown on the web site
under C&V Siblings Photos. Here is a paragraph written by Jim Wall, taken from his June 2002 tribute to his parents: "One time the family ate lunch in Malad, Idaho then went up a canyon to set up the shearing corral. Dad parked the trailer and went to the sheep herd to set up the plant. He soon realized he was very sick and drank a full gallon of water and forced it back up. Then he returned to the trailer and found Mom and us kids passed out, due to various stages of food poisoning. Dad loaded us in the car and drove us to the nearest hospital. Now the story has a small variance as to where we went. I always thought we went to Downey but Mom said it was Malad. Since I am working on a memory span of about 59 years and Mom was very ill, the reader will have the opportunity to add to the story any facts they wish. Mom required stomach pumping and the kids got by drinking a lot of warm baking soda water. The next morning Dad was paying the bill, which was around $30.00. Of course being the impetuous and proud son I said to the doctor” Do you know my Dad makes a $100.00 a day” I couldn’t figure out what the problem was when Mom unceremoniously escorted me to the car. It may have been compounded when I told the doctor, that our Dog Swarts had eaten a hamburger and he was also near death. " (Note: end of Jim Wall paragraph) Clarence worked at Spring Canyon mine until 1946, the year after World War II ended. He had studied and obtained his fire boss papers and was hired by Hiawatha Coal Company in 1946. In 1946, at the age of 30, Clarence and Vida bought a 20 acre farm in Cleveland, Utah and moved there. The lived in that farm house and raised there kids until 1961. There were many fond memories for the whole Wall family during their years on the farm. Clarence and Vida raised a big garden. If you went there, they would load you up with vegetables. And they invited all Wall family and many of their friends to hunt pheasants every November. I can still recall Vida fixing a big dinner for all of us pheasant hunters and feeding us breakfast and supper as well. See Vida's Biographical sketch for more details. During the period of 1941 to August of 1945, the coal mines worked almost 24 hours every day. They were producing coal for the World War II effort. So Clarence worked steady and hard during this period. He saved his money to buy a farm in Cleveland. They paid cash for their Cleveland farm and the money was earned during the War years when many things were rationed and you could not buy much gasoline, sugar, automobile tires, shoes, etc. So instead of spending their money, they saved it. Clarence did get to buy more gasoline and other products than did the average person, because he sheared sheep and could get ration coupons that allowed him to buy tires and gas. Wool was needed for the war effort and the sheep shearers were regarded as lucky guys as they got to travel to Idaho, California and Montana to shear sheep. And while they were there, they managed to spend some time fishing on the Madison River in Montana, where they caught big 5 to 10 lb rainbow trout. This was the only real vacation they got, and even then the women were responsible for cooking, living in a tent or small trailer and watching the kids while the men fished the swift Madison river. From the late 1940's until the 1970's, Clarence & Vida hunted in the Duncan Mountains with other members of the Wall family and members of the Krebs family and other friends of the family. Clarence always got his buck and one year he killed 5 bucks. Clarence was an excellent shot with a rifle. As I remember he sometimes used an old 30-40 Krag. Clarence and Vida always set up their cook tent with their big grill inside the tent. They usually cooked for the entire crew. Clarence was a good cook, having been trained as a cook for the ranchers and sheepherders in his early years. He got up early every morning and cooked hot cakes and eggs. I can still taste them now. They were terrific. And Clarence was a happy go lucky guy who was nice to have around. Vida managed the food and pretty much organized the whole camp. She was very generous with her time, her food, and her management skills. And like Clarence she was very nice to have around. It did not seem like a real hunting trip if Clarence and Vida were not there. These were happy times for the Wall family. Clarence helped
organize the hunting parties and he would always give everyone else first
opportunity to take the best hunting places. Clarence would
invariably take the least desirable place and tromp threw the woods trying
to chase a deer into the path of the other hunters. When one of them
shot a deer, Clarence would offer to pack it back to camp, even if it were
up a steep mountain. Clarence was very strong and could carry a
large 4 point buck straight up a steep hill until he exhausted the rest of
us, who were packing his rifle. If Clarence shot a deer, and some
other hunter thought he hit it also, Clarence would usually give the deer
to him. As a teenager, I could not understand why Clarence did this.
I thought he should have told the other party that they could not have
possibly shot that deer. But Clarence was a bigger man than the rest
of us, and he understood the big picture better than the rest of us. He
realized that to fight over a deer was setting a bad example for the young
Wall boys who were just growing up and learning life's valuable lessons.
All of us can be thankful we lived around Clarence and Vida. We are
thankful and should be very grateful for many reasons, only some of
which are elucidated herein. The Later Adult Years - Age 31 to 64 In 1948 or so, 3 years after end of World War II, the
coal mines were again laying off miners in the summer months. Then
Clarence and Vida went to Idaho shearing sheep in the summer months. Clarence was 32 years old.
This time Clarence took the whole family, and this included Lois, Jim,
and Lynn. Clarence sheared sheep for Slug Krebs, as I recall. One day
Clarence sheared 198 sheep in a single day. That was a big day for any
sheep shearer and that was a lot of work which would leave your hands sore
and your arms aching. On that same day Lloyd Wall,
Clarence's older brother beat Clarence by shearing 207 sheep.
Lloyd was also a very good sheep shearer, one of the very best. One
day LLoyd sheared 230 sheep in 8 hours.
Lloyd, Clarence and Lowell all sheared sheep for many years.
Clarence quit shearing sheep in about 1961 and he estimates that he has
sheared about 100,000 sheep. There are photos of
Clarence and Vida on the shearing road under Activities. In 1961 Vida and Clarence, both then about age 45, moved to Hiawatha from their Cleveland farm. Clarence had been appointed mine foreman and had to live in the mining town to be close to the mine. There they met Bishop Harold Bingham. They became best friends with the Bingham's. They played cards and socialized together and attended church together. They later squared danced with them and other couples in Hiawatha. When Clarence left Spring Canyon, he was making $750 per month on contract work, where he was paid by the tons of coal they produced. He had to take a pay cut when he went to Hiawatha as he made only $500 per month. However that was only a temporary setback, as Clarence got raise after raise and was promoted to mine foreman and again later to General Underground Superintendent. In 1961, Clarence was promoted to mine foreman and in 1979, at age 63, he became underground superintendent. He worked in this position until he retired in 1981. Clarence was 65 years old at retirement. At his retirement, Clarence
was one of the most knowledgeable miners in the entire world. He had
grown up in the mines and knew every aspect of mining. In earlier
years he was on several mine rescue teams and he was responsible for
helping save many miners who were involved in accidents. Clarence
was trained in first aid and he used these skills in the mine and in his
personal life. Clarence was a miners miner. There are photos
of Clarence under Activities and Coal Mining. During these years, from 1956 to the mid 1970's, Clarence and Vida fished often at Blackfoot Reservoir in Idaho, usually with the rest of the Wall family. Clarence and Vida were both good fisherman and they had their own boat. We spent many happy hours by the camp fire enjoying each other's company with all of the Wall family. Clarence was a good story teller and he always had a funny story to tell about deer hunting, fishing, coal mining, farming, or during his days as a teenager or young adult, He even managed to tell the "Vida tomato story" on more than one occasion. Those were the good old days when all of us really appreciated Clarence and Vida and their family. We all had boats and campers and life camping out was not as rugged as it was in the early days of hunting from tents in the Salina mountains. And by that time all of us had had experienced many years of watching how Clarence and Vida treated people. We sort of took them for granted, and yet we all deeply appreciated them then as we still appreciate them today. Photos of those fishing trips can be seen on the web site under Activity Photos and then under Fishing. Clarence found a bunch of petrified dinosaur tracks in the Hiawatha mine in the 1960's. He found them in the roof of the mine and pried them loose with a pick and loaded them on a coal train. He gave them to many friends and relatives. I have a small one he gave me in the mid 1960's. He offered me a giant track and how I wished I would have taken it. Clarence worked hard to get these heavy tracks out of the mine, but he would give them to anyone who expressed an interest. That is the type of guy that Clarence was then and still is today. Clarence's word is good. If Clarence tells you he will do
something, he follows up. (Bob Wall comment: I like that trait in a
person and I have always tried to emulate Clarence and Vida in the way
they always do what they say they will do. They do not make idle
promises that they do not intend to keep) Clarence and Vida later traveled to Hawaii, Spain, Canada, Morocco and to many other places.
They square danced for the governor of Granada. In those days Clarence and
Vida were great dancers and knew almost every square dance from memory.
Clarence was always a big man, but he could dance with the best of them.
And Vida was one of the best. They could swing each other around the
dance floor like a pair of twenty year olds. See a photo of them
square dancing under Activities Photos- Square Dancing. Clarence retired from Hiawatha as mine superintendent at the age of 65. He had spent 47 years working in the coal mines. There was never a better mine foreman than Clarence Wall. He was smart, a hard worker, and was well liked by his supervisors and also by his men. And that is remarkable in the days of strong unions. Often times, union men dislike their mine foreman. In October, l980, Clarence had open-heart surgery. This was a very difficult surgery and the recuperation was painful and slow. This surgery was needed because of reduced blood flow in his arteries. On January 15 Clarence went back to work; he was 65 years old then. He retired on January 15, l981. Clarence has fared better than most who had this type of surgery as he has lived for over 22 years after the surgery and the average guy lives only 10 to 12 years after this surgery. Clarence and Vida traveled a lot and performed square dancing around the world. They spent l4 years going to Quartzsite, Arizona. During the 1980's and 1990's, Clarence & Vida often went to Quartzsite Arizona in the winter months and camped on the Arizona desert with his brothers and their wives and their many friends. They spent many happy years in the desert and we have many photos of this time period displayed under Travel Photos, and then Quartzsite. They had their 50th and 60 anniversary in Quartzsite after also celebrating it in Cleveland with their family and friends. Photos of these anniversaries are displayed in this web site under FAMILY PHOTOS, & then click on Anniversaries. Many of their friends, who still go to Quartzsite, ask about Clarence and Vida and still communicate with them by mail. The often state that Clarence and Vida were two of the nicest people that they have ever met. And the Wall family certainly knows this to be a true and accurate assessment when describing Clarence and Vida. Clarence was introduced to "iron wood" in the Arizona desert. He spent many hours finding iron wood trees that would make suitable clocks, belts, mountain sheep, and other things. Clarence became an expert craftsman and made many beautiful clocks and various animal carvings. Just making one clock, requires many hours of painstaking work. It takes 15 to 20 minutes to make one saw cut of 6 inches or so. And despite the difficulties encountered, Clarence made dozens of clocks for his kids, and grand kids and friends. I can only hope his grandchildren and great grand children appreciate both Clarence and Vida and keep those clocks forever to help celebrate the memory of a great person and a very good grand father. When Clarence's shop in Cleveland burned down a year or so ago, Jimmy helped rebuild and rewire it and Margaret Wall gave Clarence a lot of ironwood that Lloyd had accumulated over the years. This was very nice of Margaret and Clarence really appreciated that generosity. Clarence now has arthritis, but he still finds time to work on Iron Wood. He is still a very effective and productive worker. In 1995, Vida and Clarence, Lloyd & Margaret, Jewell Wall and my Uncle Tommy Beall & his wife Gladys came to my place in Soldotna, Alaska. Uncle Lowell & Aunt Francis and Evan Wall were invited, but could not make it. We all stayed in my home, ate together and it was just like old times. All of us had a good time and we gave them a tour of the entire Kenai Peninsula. We went to south to Homer and saw them bring in the boats full of Halibut. Homer is the Halibut fishing capital of the world. We also took a boat to Seldovia, a Russian Village, located in Alaska. It was the site of old Russian fur traders. We then went north east from Soldotna to Seward and saw the 200 Ft. High Exit Glacier. You can walk up to this glacier and we did. We then went to the town harbor of Seward and toured Resurrection Bay in a cruise boat and saw many remote islands and much sea life. There are some nice photos of this trip on the web site (See TRAVEL - Alaska 1996). We all had a great time showing them around the Kenai Peninsula. We had time in Alaska to hear Clarence and Lloyd retell some of our favorite stories that many of us had heard over the years. But they were such good story tellers, that we enjoyed the stories much more than when we first heard them. Photos taken on this 1995 Alaska trip are found under Travel Photos - Alaska 1995. Clarence is still a very optimistic person who is always glad to see you. He makes you feel good as he always complements those in his presence whether they are his kids, grand kids, great grand kids, other relatives. And when you arrive at his home for a visit, he will always ask you to stay for dinner. We all hope that Clarence & Vida will be here for many more years to come. When they are gone, this world will seem to be different place. And we will all miss them. But for now we are all glad to be able to visit with them and re-hash old memories. Be sure and read the tributes from Clarence & Vida's kids (Jim, Lynn, David, Wilma and Lois), and tributes from some of the grand and great grand kids, other family members and friends of Clarence and Vida. Each of these tributes make a unique contribution to our memory of Clarence and Vida. Clarence and Vida's kids give their own perspective of their memories of being raised by Clarence and Vida. And as with most kids, they learned to appreciate their parents even more after they have raised some kids of their own. I believe that virtually everyone that knows Clarence and Vida regards them as being truly terrific people. I know that I do and I have known them for over 60 years. I can't imagine anyone having a better uncle and aunt than my Aunt Vida and my Uncle Clarence. I feel very fortunate to have known them for these many years. May God Bless bless them both. And may both Clarence and Vida have many happy years as the Wall Family needs them both. by Robert M. Wall - June 2002 |